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Post  Admin on Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:29 pm

Earlier this week I was asleep following night duty. My 16 yr old had answered the door and a man was there asking her about my horses. She woke me and I went to the door. An unidentified man was there and said he was from the RSPCA following a complaint about an extremely underweight horse in the paddock. I said "really??? where?"
He pointed to a young colt in my paddock and said someone complained. I said you've got to be joking, you can see them from the road and there is nothing wrong with his condition and body score.
I asked for his identification and he said he didn't have to give it.
I asked him to leave my property immediately and cited Plenty Vs Dillon (1991) HCA 5 CLR 635 F.C. 91/004 (7 March 1991) and consent of entry to this property had been withdrawn and he was to leave immediately. I also have signs on all the gate entries to this property with this information. He had opened a closed gate to come to the door.

He said he could go anywhere on this property he wants to, including our home. He started to proceed towards the gate towards my stable block (currently empty) and I hobbled out along side him and stopped in front of him.

I must state now, I hobbled because I am recovering from a tendon and hamstring injury to my right leg (work related) and was just on the brink of mending.

When I stopped I held out my arms in the 'star' position and said, you will not go any further. Next thing he lunged forward with both hands and forceably pushed me with both of his hands on each of my shoulders. I stumbled backwards about a metre feeling a snap in the leg. The pain was immediate and debilitating. My daughter flew out beside me and put herself between this man and myself and screamed at him to back off and not touch me again, that it was assault and if he moved forward she'd drop him in a nano second. (mind you, she is a pint sized flea but comes with a dangerous bark).

He returned to his vehicle and drove down the driveway, closing the gate behind him. I phoned the police immediately and reported the assault.

About 20 mins later a police car turned up but proceeded down the road and parked near the man in the white unmarked ute who had assaulted me. I see them both standing on the side of the road, so I hobbled to the car (dressed in nothing more than a nightie and dressing gown with a pair of ugg boots on - no bra and nickers, so I looked really cool NOT)

I pulled up along side and said to the officer, this is the man who assaulted me and he does NOT have the right to enter my property, he can see the horse from the road. NExt thing this clown (man) climbs the barbed wire boundary fence and goes in chasing the 2 colts in that paddock. All hell starts to break loose as the colts are not used to being chased and were screaming up and down the boundary between them and my mares.

I was still in my car, so I drove around to gate #2 and hop to it, open and drive up the laneway. My leg was killing me and I could hardly walk. As I pull up beside a row of walk in/out shelters and yards I look to see him in one of the yards with his hands up in the air, coming at another colt, who is there for handling and recovering from a kick from a paddock mate. This horse is quite skittish at the moment but was sufficiently terrified by this man that he ran at a post and rail fence, tried to jump it, instead crashed through the top rail, got tangled in the wire and hit the ground hard. He managed to scramble to his feet and take off towards the mares paddock.

Like Egor the hunchback, dragging my leg, I crawled under hotwires, getting multiple zaps, and went towards the man and the officer, who by now had also entered the property. I yelled at the guy to get off the property immediately and to stop chasing my horses because he was causing injuries. Next thing the police officer lunges at me grabbing my left shoulder of the dressing gown, pulling me off my feet, again hurting my leg. I tried to tug myself free and to upright myself and the officer yelled at me that I was "Under arrest".

WTF for I yelled back and all he said was 'you stay here". I said my farking stallion is loose and there is going to be more trouble if I don't get him, so the officer pushed me forward in the direction of my horse.

I got the horse back into the yard, quasi fixed the wired and strainer so the fence was secure again, moved the rail which had screws sticking upwards off the ground.

I then approached the officer and said no one has the right to come onto my land when right of entry has been withdrawn and that he and this unidentified person can leave now. Then 2 more officers arrive, scruff me by the arms on either side and drag me over to the laneway where I had parked my car ON MY LAND.

Instead of allowing me to walk to suit the injury of my leg, they pulled me over rough ground, making me stumble and loose an uggie. My daughter ran over and got the uggie for me and despite them yanking me towards the squad car, put the boot back on me. They threatened to hand cuff me and said they'd be taking me to the station.

I said, not before I get some clothes on and was insistent on this one, so they said they'd drive me to the house to get some clothes. When I got in the car the officer at the door got the seatbelt and pulled it to the point there was no retractable belt left, passed it to the officer now sitting beside me, who proceeded to pull the seatbelt sash ACROSS my throat pinning me to the seat, I fought back to free the belt that was chocking me. Eventually I took my glasses off and slid my head sideway to get it off my throat and over my head. He tried to reapply it, but I grabbled the buckle bit and pulled it back towards the door and wouldn't let him have it.

THey drove to the house, but instead of letting my children get me some clothes, they told them, they couldn't. SO I said to the officer, if this is an attempt to humiliate me, it won't work. They asked me to put the seatbelt back on and I refused citing the threat of being strangled again with it.

At the station I refused to answer questions but asked what I was being arrested for as I had not been given that information. I also advised them that under the Human RIghts convention, I will not consent to a search or pat down. They did send in two female hefalumps to try and pat me down and I said, despite my leg injury, if they laid a hand on my it would be assault. One of the fatter officers grabbed at my face and took my glasses, which I need to see with. Without them I cannot see clearly except for blurred images. I asked for them back and she said, well you wont be getting them back. They realised I meant business about not being searched and backed off.

Then I was taken to a cell and pushed in. After about 2 hours, I slept during that time on a mattress on the floor as I was dog tired, they came in and said I could go.

I told them NO WAY. I was quite comfortable and prepared to sit this one out as a protest against Civil and Human Rights. They then tried to convince me that my Husband had called and told them to tell me, he wanted me to come home. I laughed and said bullshite, my Husband knows I intend to stay and he is in full support. YOu people dragged me here and violated my privacy and right to protect my property, therefore, I am now your quest and I don't intend to drink OR eat, so let the protest begin on your hands.

Next thing 6 burley police officers come in and pick me up removing me from my room. (Just when I was beginning plans on redecorating it). One big tattooed one was a little over zealous with a push and I spun around and said you ever push me again, apart from being illegal to do so, I will be fully within my rights to knock you flat, uniform or no uniform, you have NO RIGHT to assault. Oddly enough the Sgt stepped in and backed him down. I think the guy saw the fire in my eye, because by now, I was ready to physically fight back and sadly for them it is all on tape. Their pushing and attempts to rattle me didn't work.

However, all that aside, exactly why to the RSPCA officers think they are above ALL LEGISLATION in the country including the HIGH COURT and think they can walk onto your property at any time they want to. Under the Animal Welfare Act, fair enough if they are under the belief that an act of cruelty is being committed and would require a warrant but when you can CLEARLY see a horse in good condition in a paddock that affronts two roads, then there is no need to enter the said property.

Now, I wasn't charged with assault, but was charged with Failing to wear a seatbelt (yah, 2 demerit points, but the driver, under the law gets 3 demerit points) Resist a police officer; and Obstruct a person in the exercise of their powers !!!!

Non identified person, who is terrifying horses to the point of going over fences. Yep, his animal husbandry skills are second to none.

Barrister has been engaged, we had our Vet come out that same day and assess all the horses and in the Vets words, he doesn't really know what that clown is on and also went off to the Doctor who has upped the pain killers and now I have a knee brace (just freaking great) and my horse's handling has just been set back 2 months.

If anyone neglects their horses I support the action taken against them, but when you spend thousands of dollars ensuring your horses are fed, wormed, farriered, vetted etc this is a bit piss poor form.

Has anyone else been through this?? any suggestions??
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why are we not surprised?

Post  millie1* on Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:35 am

the story sounds far fateched but unfortunately we all know the Police are at the beck and call of the RSPCA and will do whatever. I had 3 horses stolen by a landlady who claimed I owed her a lot of money - she removed the horses from her proerty to an unknown location and refused to say where they were or that I could get them back. Reported to police who refused to do anything and then tried to have me sectioned under the mental health act as I was fit to do something nasty to her. To this day I wish her all the ill in the world and hope that one day the horses will see to it she suffers at their hands rather than the other way around.

Police and RSPCA you only have to read any case under AWA2006 to see this kind of behaviour - the police take possession under the direction of the RSPCA and pass on CARE only to RSPCA but you cannot apply to the police (the possessors) for access under the police and criminal evidence act - why oh why????

Please encourage writer of this story to join us - sounds like she id one that we could do with - another fighter!!!!
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Post  Candcane on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:35 pm

Just out of interest where did this information come from, only I note the use of American wording.

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Why Are We Not Surprised

Post  Trilby Bee on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:48 pm

Millie, indeed it does sound as tho it has been embellished somewhat...but then RSPCA exaggerate themselves...and lie thro their teeth. I am fairly sure moonstone was manhandled out of her property and locked in a police car...all her rabbits taken and then they had to give them back. It was some years ago but I think she still suffers anxiety and depression as a result.

ADMIN  any idea where it comes from?? And how recent?
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Post  misty02 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:29 pm

I thought it was Australia. From what I've seen they have the same reputation there

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Re: Can you believe this??

Post  Admin on Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:38 pm

It was on facebook last night.
I have to admit it does sound a bit OTT but knowing them ..... you never know.
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Post  Trilby Bee on Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:58 pm

I thought Australia too...don 't think there is RSPCA in the States, but definitely in Oz, Commonwealth and all that, and it sounded like somewhere with a large area of land. Agree, would be interesting to get them on the Forum. And yes, Misty is right, their reputation there is non too savoury.
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Can you believe this

Post  moonstone on Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:12 pm

I read this on another forum a few days ago and YES i can believe that this happened to the poor unfortunate woman as that is almost identical to what they did to me Shocked it was in Australia.
I was pushed and shoved around by two women inspector's Evil or Very Mad this was after one had forced her way into my house and shoved me up against the wall while forcing my arms over my head to hold me there so she could let the other's in Evil or Very Mad the bloody cheek of this woman (i am quite happy to name the bitch btw) she "invited" her collegues and the police into MY house Evil or Very Mad she tried to force me into signing over my bunnies by telling me that she would have me arrested if i didn't agree but i told her to go ahead Mad she read me my rights which i now know is illegal and then got two enormous policemen to virtually carry me through my house and put me in a police car Evil or Very Mad where i was left for 6 hours Evil or Very Mad they even took my mobile away so that i was out of contact with my family who were desperately trying to help me Shocked 
They chased my terrifed rescue rabbits around trying to catch them then took them all away (except two who hid themselves away  Smile  should also mention that one of these bunnies pebbles was so traumatised by this that she would hide under a hutch every time a stranger approached)i have never found out where they took them but think it may have been in Kent Evil or Very Mad next day they brought them back again saying that their vet had found nothing wrong with them so what was all that about then?My own vet who was aware of the situation with the nutter who reported me had said he would come straight over if rspca turned up as we knew she would do this but rspca refused to let me call him..he later did a full inspection of my sheds/rabbits/enclosures and gave me a glowing report Smile I just hope that it cost them their precious money to steal my rabbits Razz 14 later died of stress and enteritis thanks to the neglect they received at their hands..BTW can rspca actually do interviews under caution bearing in mind that they have no legal powers or is that more rubbish they use to frighten folk with Twisted Evil 

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Post  misty02 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:58 pm

The bastard that came to me read me my rights and also interviewed me under caution. Wish I knew then what I know now.
One thing for sure is that he then made up his statement (which contradicted what he wrote in his notebook at the time of his visit) after interrogating me to make me look a liar in court  Evil or Very Mad 
I had a friend visiting at the time and he ordered him of MY property telling them he didn't want them to hear what he said to me. He marched up to another visitor demanding to know who they were and why they were there. Generally threw his weight around.
Utter bastard, I can't find the words to describe how much I detest him, just hope one day he gets his just desserts

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Post  Admin on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:14 pm

misty02 wrote:The bastard that came to me read me my rights and also interviewed me under caution.  Wish I knew then what I know now.
One thing for sure is that he then made up his statement (which contradicted what he wrote in his notebook at the time of his visit) after interrogating me to make me look a liar in court  Evil or Very Mad 
I had a friend visiting at the time and he ordered him of MY property telling them he didn't want them to hear what he said to me.  He marched up to another visitor demanding to know who they were and why they were there.  Generally threw his weight around.  
Utter bastard, I can't find the words to describe how much I detest him, just hope one day he gets his just desserts
Did you get a name at the time?
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Re: Can you believe this??

Post  misty02 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:22 pm

Of the inspector? Oh I know his name, will never forget it

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Post  Admin on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:53 pm

misty02 wrote:Of the inspector?  Oh I know his name, will never forget it
Care to post or pm it?
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Post  misty02 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:03 am

Would rather not atm. Does this sound like someone?

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Post  Admin on Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:23 am

misty02 wrote:Would rather not atm.  Does this sound like someone?  
Just thinking about keeping a list of know Gestapo `Jerks`
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