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Post  millie1* on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:20 am

Hi all,

I am putting together a brief to put before ITV's Exposure programmers regarding the heavy handed overreacting RSPCA and whether they really do work for animal welfare. The working title is currently 'Animal Well-Fair Act'. As some of you already know I have had more than my fair share of these guys to the extent that I am prosecuting them for unnecessary suffering (I would love to know if this is a first), however, I am not the only one and from what you have all posted, everyone of us has a story to tell. Clearly an exposure of the RSPCA;s mis-use of the Animal Welfare Act cant revolve around one person. Would you be prepared to be in or out???
Early reply would be appreciated

Tom - what news on the ponies have the RSPCA given up yet?
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Post  Admin on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:18 pm

Luckily i`ve never had the misfortune of a visit from them.
Just hearing other peoples experiences was enough for me. Hopefully you will get some responses .. and soon.
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Post  321tom on Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:22 pm

hi everyone how are you all i am just curious will it in any way effect my case going public on television against these criminals

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Post  Admin on Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:04 pm

321tom wrote:hi everyone how are you all i am just curious will it in any way effect my case going public on television against these criminals
I have been advised that it isn`t advisable to discuss on going cases on the open forum.
What you don`t want is prying eyes picking up anything that may do your case any harm.
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Post  millie1* on Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:07 pm

If it is not advised to discuss current cases then what is this forum for - once its happened to someone its too late

Tom thought your solicitors were coming to an agreement about dropping your case anyway

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Post  Admin on Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:13 pm

millie1* wrote:If it is not advised to discuss current cases then what is this forum for - once its happened to someone its too late

Tom thought your solicitors were coming to an agreement about dropping your case anyway

Not advisable isn`t the same as don`t. If anyone wants to discuss a case we won`t stop you but we won`t take any responsibility for what is written as regards that case.
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Getting it out there

Post  Trilby Bee on Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:02 am

I also thought Tom's solicitor/s was going to sort something out...Tom should not forget that the costs incurred in RSPCA seizing and keeping his horses (13 ponies/horses?) will be massive and he should check VERY carefully what the costs are to date. Also I would advise him not to have many assets. Saying that, on my second appearance (yes there were five appearances, almost like the Kray Twins santa ) my barrister said he vaguely knew the guy with the RSPCA who was "decent and reasonable" and had a long chat with him trying to do a "deal' with him. Came back to us saying their lawyer was fine, happy to drop the whole thing, but the dreaded uniform would not allow the case to be dropped, and it was HER decision. Also she had the World Horse Welfare rep there who backed her up...naturally.
As for Tom going public, as you say, maybe it can't do any harm now. What does his solicitor say about it? Certainly if, say, a national newspaper was going to offer me megabucks for my story, enough, for example, to pay the costs of the case and a trip to Barbados then I would grab it!! Let us never forget that the RSPCA hates bad publicity as it does their bank account no good and this year they are advertising like mad and telling us all how they need £5 million before Christmas or they will no longer be able to take in animals.
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Post  millie1* on Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:53 pm

its not so much about getting money for a story as exposing the way the RSPCA act (in reality) rather than how they are perceived. Given the time the TV would investigate I would not expect any sort of publicity for at least 6 months. I am happy to go forward but thought it would add more weight if there were other examples out there.

Just as an aside - saw a TV ad by RSPCA that they needed money to save suffering animals. In the opinion of those on this site - the animals they take are largely not suffering in the slightest, they spend a fortune on housing til court, then in many cases once they have a conviction destroy the animals concerned so never actually saving them from anything at all, This is what the public are not aware of, that and the fact that they are not law enforcers for the Animal Welfare Act (surprised my MP on this - so much for Parliament knowing whats happening even when they only recently pass an Act of Parliament!)

Do let us know if you can add weight to these items, you never know maybe someone would pay for the story - any ideas who to approach - Times and Telegraph not responding. Might try Time again through their racing man who I have met. Other ideas????

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Post  millie1* on Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:41 am

Im sure you have all seen the recent ad campaigns of the RSPCA in relation to their lack of funds! It might be worth a message to the Advertising Standards Authority (from each and everyone) about the 'mis-leading' adverts since they have openly admitted they will not take in unwanted animals, but seek to spend their cash on animals 'saved' from neglect and cruelty, when we all know that much of their interferrence costs them thousands and the animals end up being PTS anyway once convictions have been secured.

Just a thought.

Whilst I might agree with Admin/SHG about detailed discussions on the forum - there should be no harm in discussing via PM's since these should not be on public view - Admin please confirm that this is the case. Trilbey I know your original case is now over, Tom I hope they give up on you soon and let you have your animals back and Moonstone, thankfully most of your animals were returned. But how is anyone ever going to put the brakes on this unless someone is prepared to go public (and risk the consequences)??? Answers on a postcard.......(there is more than one RSPCA fugative living abroad now because of them)
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Post  Trilby Bee on Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Millie

Times and Telegraph probably not the ones. I would rather think that the Daily Mail might just take the bait, appealing to this "Nation of Animal Lovers"..........other than that, we always have Private Eye who say that they specialise in "investigative journalism" and I do recall seeing well researched articles about animal cruelty. I remember photocopying a couple of articles during my case.

Here I am going off subject more than somewhat, Millie and I apologise and hope you will forgive me. Do we know why a circus owner (Billy Roberts) who has allowed his 59-year-old elephant (Anne) to be beaten regularly over the years with a pitchfork in his presence by a "groom" got off with NO costs...No community service...NO ban on keeping animals? (And ran off to Romania). But a lady who gave her cat a .25 g dose of Paracetomol to relieve pain got a two-year suspended JAIL sentence??? OK she got it wrong, but she acted in what she thought were the cat's best interests. Her mistake was to take the cat to an RSPCA vet after it reacted to the Paracetomol. Had she taken her cat to a private vet it would not have happened. Speak soon Mile.
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Going PUBLIC/congrats catdog

Post  millie1* on Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:39 pm

Hi guys

Well done Catdog!!!! Congratulations on the good news.

All those who would be prepared to go on camera - Nigel Weller is happy to take part too.

Please let me know if you are prepared to expose them.

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Anyone prepared to go public

Post  moonstone on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:52 pm

Yes Millie i am Very Happy although i wasn't prosecuted but my "case" was over ten years ago so i would be prepared to speak out Smile i am still outraged at the treatment that i received at their hands Twisted Evil and i will never forgive them (or forget) for terrifying my rabbits and indeed returning them injured and sick casuing death to many of them through mis handling and just plain fear No
No one should treat animals with such disregard to their welfare as they did No it sickens me that my bunnnies were treated so roughly for no reason other than they took they word of the local mental woman who used them to get her own back on anyone who upset her Twisted Evil they were aware that she did this but still prefered to believe her than to actually look at the condition of my bunnies and see for themselves No

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Post  millie1* on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:54 pm

Thanks Moonstone, it would be great to have people who have different species rather than just being a rant by horse owners - those of us who have become aware of the tactics know it is anyone and everyone so long as they get their PR cash in on the back of it - no respect for animal welfare at all.

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